This is entirely consistent with China’s civil-militaryfusion strategy in which its defense industrial base and civilian technology development and industrial base are merged (and difficult to separate) in support of CCP strategic goals and objectives—with
Jekielek:
The militarycivilfusion doctrine is one of the top seven national priorities set by Xi Jinping. In essence, it's very difficult to know what might not be a problem company.
Mr. Robinson:
Right.
The administration also took aim at the Chinese regime’s “civil-militaryfusion” strategy, which directs private industry innovations to be leveraged in support of China’s military modernization.
Dual use is the practical realization of the CCP’s policy of “civil-militaryfusion,” aimed at erasing all barriers between private and public life to ensure that all civilian technologies also advance Chinese military dominance.
I like to mention this doctrine of military-civilfusion that Xi Jinping imposed. There's a reason beyond economics why Huawei is subsidized so heavily and has penetrated hundreds of countries where it has become almost the sole cell phone provider.
And I guess I keep sort of thinking to myself, I have some theories about this, but how is it that the NIH ended up funding what's obviously a military lab because of the civil-militaryfusion doctrine and to insert fuel and cure and cleavage sites into
That civil-militaryfusion is the description of how the economic activities and military activities are combined in China. One supports the other and vice versa.
So the military actually conduct the Military-CivilFusion projects and that there is a massive network from military to civilian scientist and also infiltrate America and other countries so they can get new technology from other countries, they can establish
There is a civil-militaryfusion doctrine. If there is a military application for technology, which obviously there is here, it is exploited as much as possible. Why are we still doing this development in China?
Mr.
We talked about the civil-militaryfusion a bit. Often, people in the West that are doing business with China imagine that it's working by the same set of rules, by essentially free market rules.
As you say, now it's using civil-militaryfusion, that research can be misused for malevolent purposes or to advance Chinese military, to advance the modernization of Chinese military at a time when China is being increasingly aggressive and assertive
But there's this, for example, complete lack of awareness about the concept of civil-militaryfusion, which is dominant in how Chinese industry and the educational field interacts and works together. What do you think about that?
Sen.
Jekielek:
I often describe TikTok from the perspective of the Chinese Communist Party having particular influence on this app, by its own laws and also by its own policies of civil-militaryfusion.
We're going to see, as a part of this decoupling between the United States and China, that tech companies are going to be forced out of China one way or another, and that's a good thing because of this whole concept of civil-militaryfusion, which means
With civil-militaryfusion, their roll-on, roll-off ferries, the use of civilian aircraft, they have enormous capabilities, an enormous lift already. It would be hard to argue they are not designing a military capable of that specific task.
For example, the civilmilitaryfusion that the Chinese regime mandates basically, right throughout its system.
Mr. Chaillan: Yes.
Mr. Jekielek: But let's go back to what's happening here in the U.S.