Infertility After Vaccination? Dr. Kimberly Biss Explains the Data

[FULL TRANSCRIPT BELOW] “I noticed that my miscarriage rate from year to year had gone up by 100 percent.”

Dr. Kimberly Biss is a board-certified OBGYN who has grown her Florida private practice to a five-provider group that delivers roughly 300 babies a year. Having been involved in more than a thousand pregnancies herself, Dr. Biss observed some disturbing trends in her patients once the COVID-19 genetic vaccines rolled out in 2021.

“Now that people are getting the documents from the trials, there were bad outcomes in there. The miscarriage rate was 80 percent in the Pfizer trials. They knew that,” she says.

“This information was first reported by my colleagues Naomi Wolf and her team at Daily Clout, and extensively reviewed by Dr. James Thorpe. Of the 270 women who got pregnant, only 32 were followed up on, and 26 miscarried. 81%.”

Dr. Biss began tracking and comparing her data in real time, the bulk of which was published in 2022 on Dr. Jessica Rose’s Substack.

“A lot of medical schools—over 50 to 60 percent of their money probably comes from Big Pharma,” says Dr. Biss.

We dive into the data Dr. Biss compiled, and discuss how pressure campaigns from federal health agencies and Big Pharma influenced the vaccine roll-out in pregnant and breastfeeding women.

“In the beginning, they locked us down, we’re all eating Uber Eats, all processed junk, can’t go to the gym, can’t exercise, don’t go outside, don’t get in the sun, which is your vitamin D. So, we were all deficient in D. I mean, everything that doesn’t promote any sort of health they told us to do,” says Dr. Biss.

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FULL TRANSCRIPT

Jan Jekielek:
Dr. Kimberly Biss, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.

Dr. Kimberly Biss:
Thank you for having me.

Mr. Jekielek:
At a hearing in Congress about vaccine injury, you were talking about what you found in your profession as a gynecologist. Let’s start with your practice, what you do, and how all this evolved.

Dr. Biss:
I graduated from Tufts University School of Medicine in 1993. I then went to Atlanta and did a year of general surgery training. From ‘94 to ‘98, I completed an Ob-Gyn residency in St. Petersburg, Florida. I started private practice in 1998, just doing general obstetrics and gynecology, and I’ve been there ever since. In 2007, I broke off and started my own practice, and I’ve grown it into a five-provider group.

On average, we deliver about 300 babies a year. If you include my residency training, I’ve probably been involved in about 8,000 pregnancies. I don’t have any articles that I’ve ever printed. I haven’t written any books. But I’ve had quite a bit of experience taking care of pregnant women. I started to notice some pretty concerning things once the injections rolled out. I don’t call them vaccines because we know they’re not vaccines. I started to do a deep dive and track my data.

Mr. Jekielek:
You were very concerned that there’s this new virus, it’s coming from China, and maybe there’s a lab origin. There is all this information swirling around. What did you see in 2020 vs. 2021?

Dr. Biss:
In 2020, I didn’t see anything that was concerning. Actually, that’s the best year we have had with regards to the number of deliveries. Since that year, the number of deliveries we’ve had has gone down each year. We actually had very many deliveries due to the lockdowns in November and December of that year, as did most other obstetricians. I did not see any increase in any miscarriage rate that year.

As a matter of fact, we had the most new entry, newly pregnant patients register that year. I didn’t see any of the other problems like premature labor, which they were threatening was going to increase due to the infections. Preeclampsia, which is high blood pressure in pregnancy, was not a problem. We didn’t have any increase in the normal rates of those conditions during that year.

We didn’t have one patient in my practice, granted a small practice, out of 350 pregnant women that ended up being admitted for Covid or placed on a ventilator, and we had no mortality. I was the chief of staff for four years, which started in January of 2020. I got the analytics from our delivery unit that delivered about 3,700 babies that year, and we didn’t have any maternal mortalities. Being chief of staff in my county in Florida, I would have been aware if there was mass amounts of maternal mortality in my community, and there was not.

Mr. Jekielek:
That’s remarkable. There were essentially more successful deliveries in that year.

Dr. Biss:
Yes, more people were getting pregnant. More people were having babies. There were not a lot of bad outcomes and no increase in infertility.

Mr. Jekielek:
Okay, so 2021 rolls around. First of all, how did you approach this product? Let’s call it a Covid genetic vaccine. How about that?

Dr. Biss:
That’s perfect. I was amazed that we were even going to contemplate giving this to a pregnant woman because we never give a pregnant woman, for very obvious reasons, anything new that’s just out of the gate. There are two drugs we should have remembered and learned about, diethylstilbestrol and thalidomide, which both had poor obstetric outcomes and were taken off the market with regards to use in pregnancy.

Prior to 2020, if I had ever given a pregnant woman a new product or medication, that would have been malpractice. I was just amazed that this was even being considered. But the way our governing body, ACOG [The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists], marketed it to us was that if a woman gets a respiratory infection and she’s pregnant, because of all the changes in her body during pregnancy, she’s going to get a lot sicker and could potentially die from this, as opposed to a non-pregnant female.

They have been using that tactic for years to get us to give our pregnant patients the influenza vaccine. In 30 years, I’ve never had a pregnant woman die of the flu. I had already made a decision that I was never going to promote this, and I never recommended it to any of my patients.

Mr. Jekielek:
There’s no way we could have had the information to determine whether this would be safe for pregnant women.

Dr. Biss:
Correct. Pregnancy lasts for nine months, and then what happens to the newborns? They were already saying, “safe and effective,” in April of that year. Women were getting it sooner than that because they were deeming them immunocompromised, so they got to the front of the line in order to take these injections. Even in the Pfizer trials, obviously, they didn’t enter somebody in the trial knowing they were pregnant, but they had accidental pregnancies. They knew that had to be possible.

They even presented that in one of talks yesterday where men weren’t supposed to have intercourse with women if they were in the trials, so they knew something was going to be transmissible, potentially. Now, people are getting the documents from the trials and there were bad outcomes. The miscarriage rate was 80 percent in the Pfizer trials and they knew that.

Mr. Jekielek:
These products are gene therapies and all gene therapies have shedding studies done on them, because some level of shedding is likely. This was never done with these genetic products. But they understood that there might be shedding and told people that close contact might not be helpful.

Dr. Biss:
Yes, absolutely.

Mr. Jekielek:
E. coli growth was used to create the vaccines given to a billion people, so there’s endotoxin in there. DNA has also been found in them and there are also additional reasons why they could be damaging. You often hear about spikeopathy, where the spike protein is very destructive, very toxic, and creates all these problems. You didn’t see a lot of those problems in that first year of 2020. Please tell us what you saw in 2021.

Dr. Biss:
In 2021, I had been noticing things and tracking them, but not officially. In November of 2021, a non-clinical staff member in my office came to me and said, “Dr. Biss, we’ve had a really large number of miscarriages this month. We’ve had eight miscarriages.” In a practice that delivers 20 people a month, that’s a lot of patients in one month. I went back to January of 2020 and started looking at my population and tracking the miscarriages. I also tracked the newly pregnant women with less than 12 weeks in their pregnancy that were calling for an appointment, and also the amount of deliveries in that year.

Moving forward, I tracked all this until November of 2021, so I had almost three years of completed data. I sent that information to Jessica Rose and she published it in her Substack which has nice charts and graphs. Sadly, I noticed that my miscarriage rate from year to year had gone up by 100 percent. You will see quoted in some articles and even in my obstetric textbook that the normal miscarriage rate is 13 to 15 percent. I’ve never seen that clinically.

There’s a paper published by Nair et al. that showed in 2020 the actual miscarriage rate is closer to 5 to 6 percent. I’ve probably never even been that high. In 2020, from month to month, the average miscarriage rate in my practice was 4 percent. Then in 2021 when it spiked in November, the average rate was 7 to 8 percent, so it had doubled.

Then in 2022, from month to month, it went up to 15 percent, and that was up till November. In December of 2022, my miscarriage rate was 27 percent. In January and February of 2023, it was 30 percent. It didn’t normalize back down to 4 percent until June of 2023. That was the miscarriage rate.

I also went back and looked at my population and figured that 65 to 70 percent of my patients got these injections. The majority had three. Very few had four or more. The majority were receiving them in 2021 and early 2022. Yet, we’re still seeing these problems in 2022 moving into 2023, so that’s concerning. Those were the miscarriages.

In the initial picture in her Substack, the orange bars going up are the miscarriages. The blue bars going down are the newly registering pregnant patients. From year to year, we were seeing less pregnant women. That’s either a reflection of the fact that they lost their pregnancies early and never called and made the appointment, or infertility, which I saw.

I had women in 2021 who couldn’t get pregnant, who had no problems prior to the injections. We had delivered their other babies and there were no issues with them getting pregnant. Now all of a sudden they need in vitro fertilization.

Mr. Jekielek:
There’s a significant increase in requests for IVF.

Dr. Biss:
Yes. The infertility specialists in the United States made a lot of money in the last few years. They send us these five, six, seven page consultation reports with not one sentence on whether or not the patient has been vaccinated.

Mr. Jekielek:
There’s a paper from the New England Journal of Medicine that shows that it’s safe to give these injections to pregnant women. I imagine people who are concerned will refer to this. They’ll say, “Look, here’s the evidence. It’s published in this gold standard journal.

Dr. Biss:
Yes. The New England Journal of Medicine is peer reviewed and well-respected. Tom Shimabukuro is the lead author on this article and all the other authors are either government employed or involved in the vaccine committees to approve vaccines. This article was published in June of 2021 and it was primarily looking at the V-safe data from people that had their app and could record bad adverse events from these injections.

Interestingly enough, the majority of the people were nurses for some reason. Anyway, they had a cohort of 827 women. They said in their article that the miscarriage rate was normal because it was 13.6 percent. But the problem with that is that they didn’t do the statistics right, because they used the whole cohort of women in either the first, second or third trimester of pregnancy.

Miscarriage is defined as a pregnancy lost prior to 20 weeks, which would be the halfway mark of a pregnancy. If you lose a baby after 20 weeks, that’s a stillbirth. When you look at the 20 week and under pregnant women in that study and use the correct math, the miscarriage rate was 83 percent.

There are people that actually looked at that study critically and figured that out and sent a letter to the editor. They published the letter, but they have not retracted the article. Women in that particular cohort that were 20 weeks or less in pregnancy when they received the injections, 83 percent of them lost their babies.

Mr. Jekielek:
What you’re telling me is almost unbelievable .

Dr. Biss:
I can expand on my thoughts on this. Most physicians, they read the abstract, they take it on faith that this is reality, because these are peer-reviewed articles. They say, “How are they going to get printed if it’s not true?” We mostly read the abstract, because you receive a journal with 100 articles. You can’t read every one in depth, and we don’t all have degrees in statistics either.

Mr. Jekielek:
On top of that, if the result matches the correct view, we can then breathe a sigh of relief. It’s a lot easier to take that position than to take the contrary position, for many reasons. What do you make of this? What has happened to medicine?

Dr. Biss:
I started medical school in the early 90s when the concept of evidence-based medicine was being employed in medical schools as their way of teaching. Big pharma figures out the evidence, and there are algorithms developed for every condition.

Mr. Jekielek:
Just to be clear, big pharma figures it out, because the types of studies that are required for proper evidence-based medicine are so expensive that only big pharma can really do them. Is that what you mean?

Dr. Biss:
Yes. Big pharma gives medical schools a lot of money. Over 50 to 60 percent of their money comes from big pharma. If the patient comes in with a set of symptoms, everything we try to figure out in a patient falls into these algorithms, and we all follow the same algorithms to figure something out.

We order the same tests. We provide similar therapeutics. There are cookbooks on how to treat things. If you veer off the cookbook or the algorithm, you have to explain yourself to either peer review or your state medical board, because now you’re not practicing standard medicine.

The other thing that is created, which is very dangerous, is the lack of critical thinking. Why do you even have to think? Everything is right in front of you. You just look up your recipe and do your recipe and you’re fine. That has been going on since the early 90s. That was why a lot of doctors didn’t question things that really made no sense during this pandemic.

Prior to 2020, if you had a respiratory infection and they followed their cookbook, you would get four prescriptions from your physician. You would get a z-pack, a steroid, a cough suppressant, and an inhaler. Suddenly, we have another type of respiratory infection and there’s nothing available to treat it. You just get your little oxygen monitor and wait until the number is below 90 and then you go to the hospital.

That made no sense to me. Wearing a mask and standing six feet away from somebody made no sense to me. None of it made any sense. But like a bunch of bobbleheads, so many physicians said, “Okay we’ll do this,” because nobody thinks. That’s my theory.

Mr. Jekielek:
What makes you different?

Dr. Biss:
I had studied prior to when it was really hardcore evidence-based training. Personally, in 2018, I started eating the ketogenic way and incorporating intermittent fasting. I watched a lot of podcasts and actually learned nutrition. We don’t learn nutrition in medical school, for obvious reasons, because they want us to provide pharmaceuticals. They don’t want you to know, “Let medicine be thy food, and food be thy medicine,” like Hippocrates said.

I learned a lot about nutrition and saw the big pharma/big food disaster. I started to question a lot of things back then. That made it easier for me to question things when the pandemic came along, and to question the fact that we were going to give a fresh new out-of-the-gate product to pregnant women.

Mr. Jekielek:
There was an incredible fear around this virus. We just assumed the harm could be so great that we needed a completely new drug that couldn’t possibly be adequately tested, because there just wasn’t the time to do it. Is that what happened?

Dr. Biss:
Yes, fear was the main thing. Everybody was so afraid. because every day during 2020 they were flashing the death numbers on the news. This was very heavily marketed towards women. Women make the health decisions in the household. They tell their husbands to go to the doctor. If you can convince a pregnant woman who typically wouldn’t even take an aspirin during pregnancy to get these injections, it’s game over. Because if a pregnant woman agrees to getting this injection, then everybody will agree to getting this injection.

Mr. Jekielek:
Please tell us about infertility. What do we know about that?

Dr. Biss:
We don’t really know what’s causing it, because nobody’s really looking at it that closely. Early on, through FOIA [Freedom of Information Act], the Japanese requested the Pfizer information which clearly showed that the lipid nanoparticle, the fatty envelope around the RNA, goes everywhere in the body. It was designed to do that because early on they used lipid nanoparticle technology in order to get chemotherapeutic agents into the brain across the blood brain barrier.

We’ve known for a long time that these went all throughout the body, but they became most highly concentrated in the female test rat ovaries. It also goes to the testes, so that may have something to do with the infertility, if these things are getting into our patients ovaries.

The spike protein may also play a role. My theory would be that if you’re having any micro clotting, that may inhibit the blood supply to the lining of the uterus where the pregnancy is going to implant, and maybe that’s what’s causing a miscarriage. The other thing that Michael Yeadon brought to everybody’s attention early on is that the spike protein is very similar to the proteins on the syncytial layer, which is the layer around the embryo as it’s traveling down to implant. Those proteins in that layer are similar to the spike protein. If there’s antibodies made to the spike protein, maybe somehow that’s involved.

These are all my theories, but nobody has tested them. But we’re definitely seeing an increase in infertility and that’s also seen in the birth rates going down globally. The birth rates are higher in certain parts of the world. Prior to 2020 it had been trending down a bit, but now there’s a drastic drop in the curve in some countries.

Mr. Jekielek:
Have you tried to plot that against high levels of Covid vaccination vs. no vaccination?

Dr. Biss:
In my own practice, it was very hard for me to say exactly if Mary Smith had a baby, that she had this vaccine. I have a general sense that up to 70 percent of my patients have been vaccinated. But the problem is I’m the only practitioner in my office that asks all our patients, “Have you had Covid? How many times? Have you had any of those shots? Which brand? How many?” Because like it or not, that’s part of your history now. None of my other providers do that.

If I haven’t seen the patient yet and it’s not in her electronic record and they come in with a miscarriage, then you can’t really ask them that information because you don’t want to come off as accusatory to the patient and make her think that she did something wrong to cause the loss of the pregnancy. I don’t have that exactly plotted. Now, when I have a gynecology patient come in and complain that she can’t get pregnant, I will ask her that and I will have that data. But I’m pretty rare. Most physicians aren’t connecting those dots or asking those questions.

Mr. Jekielek:
Right. But it could happen at different stages and that’s what you need to look for. You can’t get pregnant for some reason, there’s an increase in miscarriages, and then a possible increase in stillbirths. Is it an increase in all of these areas, or is it just the overall number?

Dr. Biss:
It’s the overall number. There are certain parts of the world and our country where the stillbirth rates have increased quite a bit. I actually had analytics run on our delivery ward at my hospital. Out of 10,000 deliveries, our stillbirth rates from year to year were the same. There was no spike, so I haven’t seen that. I haven’t really seen the anomalies in my practice.

Mr. Jekielek:
There’s a decrease in pregnancies, there’s an increase in miscarriages, but there isn’t any change in stillbirths. That provides a lead for others to do their own research or look at the data from their own practices. How does ACOG approach this question?

Dr. Biss:
ACOG, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, told us very early on in 2021 that we needed to vaccinate anybody thinking of getting pregnant, pregnant, or breastfeeding, that it’s safe and effective, and there is no other option for your patient. They also did not want us providing our patients with hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin. That’s ridiculous because we’ve been giving pregnant women hydroxychloroquine for decades, because they may have lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, or other conditions.

It’s safe at the same dose we would give for Covid for five days, but all of a sudden that’s dangerous. That never made any sense. Incidentally, my lupus patients and rheumatoid arthritis patients never got Covid because they were on hydroxychloroquine for their whole pregnancy.

Mr. Jekielek:
Of course, ivermectin is commonly given to pregnant women, as I understand it.

Dr. Biss:
It is after the first trimester, but you can give hydroxychloroquine in any trimester. But they wanted us to pretty much inject everybody. Now, information has come out through FOIA requests that ACOG received about $11 million through a trust with money funneled from HHS [Dept. of Health & Human Services], which is our tax dollars, to heavily market this product. With the contracts they signed, they pretty much can’t ever reverse their course. Even though they have to be seeing what I’ve been seeing, they haven’t changed their stance. Today, they’re still recommending the latest booster.

Mr. Jekielek:
To pregnant women, or women even considering pregnancy?

Dr. Biss:
Yes.

Dr. Biss:
My partner, who I love, is like a brother to me. When I brought my concerns up to him early on, I said, “I don’t think we should be giving this to our pregnant women. I’m concerned we don’t have any long-term data.”
He said, “Kim, if ACOG’s recommending it, those people are smarter than us. They’re not going to tell us to give something to our patients that’s dangerous.” This is what they think.

Mr. Jekielek:
Maybe the ACOG people say the same thing, “Those HHS people, they’re smarter than us.” You mentioned breast milk. There have been papers published that show that the spike protein is being passed through the breast milk, and there have been reactions from this breast milk.

Dr. Biss:
This hasn’t been written up in any article that I’ve seen. But it was about a year ago where they had a cluster of babies in Scotland being admitted with myocarditis.

Mr. Jekielek:
It never happened before?

Dr. Biss:
I’ve never heard of it happening before. They didn’t have any infections. Prior to these injections, myocarditis, which was rare, was usually caused by a viral infection. They didn’t have any infections, but my assumption would be that they were breastfed from moms that had been vaccinated. Sadly, we’re going to have a lot of things developing in these babies that were born to vaccinated moms or breastfed from vaccinated moms. Because we know these products travel everywhere throughout the body, and the major concern would be traveling into the brain.

Mr. Jekielek:
There’s at least one paper that I’m aware of that chronicles this transmission through breast milk and a reaction. Also, is it just the spike that’s passing through, or is it the lipid nanoparticles passing through as well?

Dr. Biss:
I think it’s both. In the Pfizer trials, they knew that this would be transmitted in liquids. Breast milk is a bodily fluid, very fatty, and actually, babies are keto. These lipid nanoparticles are fats. They found fully intact messenger RNA, so the whole package went through.

You brought up the adulterated aspect of this product. If there are DNA plasmids getting into these newborns, who knows? Sadly, we might be seeing a huge spike in cancer in babies and kids. I hope not.

Mr. Jekielek:
We’re not seeing that at this point, is that right?

Dr. Biss:
Correct, but we’re still kind of new to this.

Mr. Jekielek:
Right. If you’re a mom who was Covid vaccinated, however many times, and you’re concerned after watching this interview, what do you recommend?

Dr. Biss:
First and foremost; no more shots, and the same for your partner.
I would seek out a functional medicine doctor to get your medical care. Two; try to avoid processed foods, eat clean, and fast intermittently. We’ve seen in literature a few fasts that cause your body to take out the trash, so to speak.

Mr. Jekielek:
Yes, the fasts promote autophagy, as Dr. Paul Marik likes to say.

Dr. Biss:
Because the spike protein was designed in such a way that our cells can’t degrade this foreign protein down like they normally can with other proteins. It’s very hard to get out of the body. We don’t know how long your body’s going to make it. Fasting may help to get rid of the spike.

There are other naturopathic ways and supplements to take that can help your body get rid of the spike. But it’s a problem because there is this shedding, too. We’re constantly around other people that are vaccinated. We’re all getting exposed to spike every day and we all probably need to be on something to get rid of.

Mr. Jekielek:
Some people are very sensitive to it, but the vast majority of people are not as sensitive. There are basic lifestyle changes that will be very good for your health that are also very good for this specific scenario.

Dr. Biss:
Good sleep. I also weight train, and weight training has been shown to boost your immunity. Remember in the beginning, they locked us down. We’re all eating from UberEats, all processed junk. We can’t go to the gym and can’t exercise. We can’t go outside and get in the sun, which is our vitamin D, so we were all deficient in D. Everything that doesn’t promote any sort of health, they told us to do.

Mr. Jekielek:
The other thing is if you’re breastfeeding, we don’t know how long the spike protein lasts.

Dr. Biss:
We don’t. They are developing tests and we’ll have a commercial test at some point where you can measure spike protein. You can just get a blood test and see how much your spike level is. There are people working on that. It’s indirectly found in the testing now, and they’re finding the spike in cells. It’s like an indirect test, but they’re trying to develop tests where they actually can find the spike. Some people are going to develop tests where they can find the spike and even determine which vaccine it came from.

Mr. Jekielek:
What’s next? What needs to happen in your field now?

Dr. Biss:
Obviously, all the big entities in Washington are very much captured by big pharma. All of our medical journals are corrupted. As a matter of fact, in my exit speech as chief of staff in December, I told all my colleagues, “Read your articles very thoroughly and critically, because you just cannot take it on faith that these peer-reviewed journal articles are true and they’re not fraudulent.” I don’t know if you’ve seen the series Netflix, “Dope Sick,” which is about the opioid crisis.

The whole time I was watching that, I was trying to think, “How did I know the Sackler name?” It was driving me crazy. I think Purdue was the company that made OxyContin. I knew the gist, but I never knew the name of the drug family. It was bugging me.

In the very last episode, they were chipping their name off of the Louvre and all the buildings they had their name off on because they had lost in court, and now they’re a disgrace. There was a man standing under their name, Sackler Hall. He said, “I go to Tufts Medical School,” where I graduated from. Then he said, “My brother died of an opioid overdose. I want this name taken off the building.” That was my lecture hall for two years when I was in medical school. I was like, “ding.”

Medical schools get a lot of money from big pharma. We are taught the big pharma way, which is not health care. It’s sick care. You have a problem, you get a pill or an injection or a biologic. There is no looking at the things that are important—how you eat, how you exercise, how you sleep, and what you are exposed to environmentally.

If you have a problem, there’s a pill for it. There’s so many things that need to change. There are parallel systems that are being developed now to help take care of patients. I mentioned the term sick care, because if big pharma promoted health care, they would lose their business.

If you think about it, there are very few things you can take where you’re cured. But if you have an infection, you can take an antibiotic. If you go to the hospital with a hot appendix, they take it out and you’re cured. If you break a bone, they can fix it. But most medicines, when you get placed on them, you’re on them for life, and there’s a reason for that. Then you’re on more medicines for the side effects.

Mr. Jekielek:
Any final thoughts as we finish up?

Dr. Biss:
I would recommend that everybody do your own research and ask a lot of questions. Don’t take on faith what your doctor tells you is correct or is really going to help you. We do as we’re told. A lot of doctors today do as they’re told. They don’t think. Everybody is treated the same way.

Care should be individualized. There used to be what’s called the practice of medicine. We’re not all the same. Everybody needs to be treated as an individual and not in the same way.

Eat right. Take lots of vitamin D. Exercise. Get lots of sleep. Try to eliminate a lot of stress, although in this world today, that’s hard. Don’t be afraid. What got everybody into trouble during this pandemic was the fear. God gave us a pretty cool body and we have an immune system. I don’t think we need all these drugs and shots in order to stay healthy.

Mr. Jekielek:
Last question. Where can people look for doctors?

Dr. Biss:
That’s a good question. The FLCCC has a huge network of physicians that are like-minded with regards to Covid and the injections. Do your research and find a naturopath or a functional medicine doctor. Full disclosure, prior to my ketogenic journey, I thought they were voodoo medicine doctors, like they’re crazy.

But they’re actually the real deal. They sit with patients for hours and figure out what is the best way for them to get better. They do lots of things and they don’t use a lot of pharmaceutical drugs. If you implement what we’ve already talked about, you’re not going to need a lot of pharmaceutical drugs.

Mr. Jekielek:
Dr. Kimberly Biss, it’s such a pleasure to have you on the show.

Dr. Biss:
Thank you so much. It was a pleasure.

Mr. Jekielek:
Thank you all for joining Dr. Kimberly Biss and me on this episode of American Thought Leaders. I’m your host, Jan Jekielek.

This interview was edited for clarity and brevity.